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USA Today
Dec 16, 2009
9:46 PM | #1 Gunz
#2 DMOB
#3 Kerns
#4 WUW
#5 Firm
#6 ipower
#7 m&g
#8 River City
#9 PoorBoys
#10 Triple Crown |
rite
Dec 17, 2009
10:14 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
that looks pretty good. gunz and dmob at top then could argue about rest.m&g, rc, poorboys belong in there like u have.could argue m&g maybe 5 but thats a stretch. looks fair. |
visitor
Dec 17, 2009
10:48 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
You all r crazy you cant rank A and B together. There is a difference. |
Fan
Dec 17, 2009
10:54 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Id say R&B could be 10th.. i watched them play.. they played firm tough just lost focus in the 2nd half and couldn`t regroup.. Just signs of a young team. They are a young team.. watch out for them in the future |
to visitor
Dec 17, 2009
11:41 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
ok then, rank your top 10 A |
agree
Dec 17, 2009
1:14 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
R&B had two touchdowns called back on questionable calls...triple crown beat them in the bark bowl but i think R&B looked alot better at states...i`d say R&B at #10 |
Fan
Dec 17, 2009
1:31 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
R&B had 2 called back and one or 2 other big plays that got called back... I mean dont get me wrong Firm is really good but the score could have went the other way in a hurry.. But good **** Firm |
R&B
Dec 17, 2009
1:34 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Hopefully we will see firm again soon.. we cant wait to get a rematch we learned form our mistakes... there is always next year...and we don`t care where we are ranked, it doesn`t mean anything if your not first...
If you not first... your last lol |
ranking
Dec 17, 2009
3:20 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
well poorboys finished 3rd in B. gunz already been on here saying pb was toughest they played last 2 weeks. those 2 facts alone should put pb in top 10 overall.
but then u got m&G who beat pb and theres no argument m&G better than R@B. only lost to them 1 time according to there site. and river city was runner ups so put them in. and i agree TC above r@B. TC beat them no prob at BB and TC blew huge lead against A final 4 team WUW. |
Superfeet #10
Dec 17, 2009
3:56 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I agree...we learned alot from our game with the Firm, and we look forward to the spring. Only thing I`ll say is TC did not beat us "no prob" at Bark Bowl...score was 17-7, and it was a hard fought game on both sides...also, like someone said above, we`ve grown since BB...can`t wait for spring season |
pops cooke
Dec 17, 2009
8:03 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
as a regular at games in harrisonburg ill say this. m&g and r&b are 2 solid teams no doubt. and neither of these teams added a single player to their roster for states like many around the state do but deny. sure it seems m&g has their number but games are usually close. m&g has won some big and r&b got them big in their only win in this rivalry but typically the games go to the end. with that in mind I thank the VFFA for the tournament. this was my first since 1994. I got to see the gunz and they are as advertised. with that in mind with the A games I saw. m&g is a top 5-6 team like it or not. and r&b is a top 8-10. its all about the draw and either could go one and done but so could most in A except for a few. |
Seen em all
Dec 18, 2009
3:30 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I dont know about this list, but, Amer Fam needs to be in there somewhere. Dude for Sharks was found with illegal flags in the games with Gunz and had wore the all weekend. He scored majority of the touchdowns in the game with Amer. Fam. Had someone mentioned that during the game, the outcome might have been different, because be mindful, there were no punts in that game at all. I`m just sayin... |
WILDCATS
Dec 18, 2009
3:37 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
will be top 10 in A in 2010!!!!! |
Superfeet #10
Dec 18, 2009
4:51 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
one and done in B....yea ok |
TC
Dec 18, 2009
5:07 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
will bring their full roster next year - they should of been in B for what team they showed up with |
4 real
Dec 18, 2009
9:58 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
1 gunz
2 dmob
3 who u wit
4 kerns
5 firm
6 ipower
7 m&g
8 amfam
9 tc
10 poorboys
say that an ok rank.gunz r the champs. mob not too far off. firm lay an egg at states after nats.kerns hot at right time.m&g is legit beleive that. tc choked wit lead. |
espn poll
Dec 20, 2009
06:43 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
#1 Gunz
#2 DMOB
#3 Kerns
#4 WUW
#5 Firm
#6 ipower
#7 m&g
#8 River City
#9 PoorBoys
#10 R&B |
Real Talk
Dec 26, 2009
11:08 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
To espn poll:If you want respect,you have to earn it and you will never get it on paper. Its disrespectful to the teams that played A to rank 4 teams from the B in the top 10. They had the same opportunity to play A as the teams that did, also what if those 4 teams had to play D-mob, Firm, Kerns, or Gunz the 1st. round. Would you rank them in the top 10 after going 1 and done.The way you finished in the division you played in is where you are ranked the numbers don`t lie. If you want to be ranked with the best then play with the best. thats just Real Talk. |
2 Real Talk
Dec 26, 2009
12:19 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
They only ranked 3 teams from the B division. Thats Real Talk. |
Real Talk
Dec 26, 2009
1:36 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I stand corrected, but do it change the facts. If you want to be ranked with the top teams than you should play with the Top teams. You probably believe the college division II and III Champs should be ranked in the BCS too. Not saying there is a big difference in A and B, but you can remove all doubt by stepping up and play in same division and earn your ranking. Still just Real Talk. |
espn poll
Dec 26, 2009
10:06 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
overruled, rankings stand. |
RC40
Dec 27, 2009
08:42 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
i agree with whichever of the "real talk" guys Im about to agree with lol-- I appreciate being included in the discussion, and while I feel we could hang with a lot of the teams in the A, we havent played in the A so havent earned that respect; but I do appreciate your opinions and props. Hopefully next season we can make a decent run at the A and legitimize our ranking lol |
Real Talk
Dec 27, 2009
09:40 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
To espn poll: The difference between you and me is, I base my opinion on facts. I believe these 3 teams are Good, but I also believe the Dawgs,Blindside,P-Town Hustlers,AmFam,and WestWood are all Good too.I didn`t write this to disrepect the B league, but give respect earned to some of the A teams that didn`t make it too far. I would put any of those teams against those 3 teams you named from the B and I believe they will come out on Top. Thats not Real Talk just my opinion, but i`ll put a little something on it. :) |
hmm
Dec 27, 2009
10:48 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
one of those B teams is 2-0 against those teams u listed. that`s real talk |
agree
Dec 27, 2009
10:55 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
real talk is trippin. do some research b4 throwin ur cash around homey. PB is 4 real just ask gunz. they smart and play well together and can compete with anyone. m&g is very similar to pb and just beat them. |
espn poll
Dec 27, 2009
11:14 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
you can`t convince hard headed people so leave it at that. No question PB and M&G should be in there. They both really good and HAVE competed in A. You say you`re basing on facts when in fact, you are not. Little research my friend. |
Debate
Dec 27, 2009
11:36 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
It`s a yearly debate that can be argued either way. However IMO the final four in B can definitely compete in A. As stated, PB gives the guns fits out there when they played A and nationals. M&g has played A and lost heartbreakers to power and firm, and won a few in A along the way. So they both played B, who cares? Sure it`s not A but don`t get crossed that these 2 wouldn`t compete because they would and barring drawing 1 of 2 or 3 teams next year, will both be in the final 8. I don`t live in Richmond or Harrisonburg so these are facts. |
Top10
Dec 27, 2009
4:35 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Here`s the official Top 10 list of flag teams in VA:
1. Gunz- Back to back State and National Champs...4 time state champions and 3 time national champs.
2. D-Mob- Consistant winners and probably the best defensive team in our game.
3. Firm- Look at their entire body of work. They are proven winners and have some really good players. I don`t care if WUW beats them every time, I think Firm is a better team. I have played numerous games versus both.
4. Sharks/Kerns- I love their QB and their heart. They always show up and play well.
5. Who U Wit- The good thing about this team is that they are young. I definitely see them as team of the future.
6. Maroon and Gold- So what they played in the "B". They are the "B" champs and I think they could win some games against the big boys. I also think they would beat teams that I ranked them higher than.
7. Am Fam- Solid team. This team is probably the third best team in the Richmond metro area. They have speed, a good QB and a solid D.
8. iPower- A very good team, but I think their best years have past. Old man time waits for nobody. The Gunz will find out soon enough. Power=physical.
9. Poorboys- A group of guys that like each other, play very well together, and have fun playing. That`s what this game is all about.
10. Triple Crown- They always finish high in thier league and were a state semifinalist last year. I think they are a good team. |
lol
Dec 27, 2009
5:04 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Hey real talk you would lose your money because m&g has already beat am fam fit. sorry buddy, pay up now. |
Jones11
Dec 27, 2009
7:37 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
M&G did beat us a couple years back in the B tournament...they wound up winning it all then i believe. i have not seen them in action since, but i would like to play them again. i know we are certainly quite different. |
Real Talk
Dec 28, 2009
5:21 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Sorry I don`t live in the past. I agree with Jones11, some teams have changed over the past 2 years. You can shut me up and prove me wrong by just playing A. You can go through all the history you want and say this team beat that team 2yrs ago, but do it mean they can beat them now? As far as the PB giving the Gunz fits, what does it prove if you continue to lose? If lose by 1 you go home,if you lose by 21 you go home (No Moral Victories).The question you might want to ask is, how many times did the PB`s beat the Gunz?The Buffaloe Bills went to Super Bowl 4 straight times and won none do it make them a Champ? Bottom line you can eliminate the debate by stepping up and stop trying to get ranked on past history and paper. Play the people head-to-head and you will earn it. If and when you decide to do it, we can put a little something on it. Real talk |
yeppers
Dec 28, 2009
8:30 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
past or present. ur still a doosh. real truth |
shut the f up
Dec 28, 2009
8:50 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
And real talk you dont play on a team that could beat any of these teams because good teams dont talk. now. beleive that homey. my guess is ur jus a wannabe playa. have fun losing |
Real Talk
Dec 28, 2009
9:09 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Aw, you mad! I must have struck a nerve and hurt your feelings, all because i don`t agree with your rankings. Real Talk i`m a Real Man so i wont go back and forth with you, but anybody that reads this see what type of person you are.You can have your paper rankings because really the only one that matters is the Champions nobody ever remember who finished in 2nd. and based on your concern about who is ranked where you are not on the Gunz team. You must enjoy losing too."If you not 1st,you last" Ricky Bobby |
TOP 10
Dec 28, 2009
11:57 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I have no problem with your rankings but seriously how can you rank Firm above WUW? 2 years in a row they beat the Firm head to head in the State Tournament. Last year I thought it was a fluke but this year from what I saw Firm got dominated in that game and was held to only 7 points. Being that you said you played both teams what team do you play for? |
Top 10
Dec 29, 2009
10:21 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I definitely see why you would disagree with me about the Firm and WUW, but I`m telling you Firm is a better team. They have only played a couple of times and I think that out of 10 games Firm would win 6 or 7. That`s based on overall team quality. Look at the positions. Firm has the edge at QB, OL, WR, and DB. I would give WUW the edge at LB and DL. I`m not a Firm player, but I`m a flag vet. I don`t wish to divulge what team I play for because I would like to keep anonymity. This is strictly for debate and fun to keep the flag talk going. |
yo yo
Dec 29, 2009
11:19 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
my bro. top ten in a or b, they cannot be combined. No one cares about b so just leave those teams off the list homies. My N`s |
yeppers
Dec 29, 2009
3:15 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
yo yo a doosh too. real truth |
top 10
Dec 29, 2009
6:38 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
6-7 out of 10 hell after 2 games Firm is 0-2 against WUW. Spring league #1 from WUW was the MVP so he is damn good. I rep the Richmond league so I am biased and since I never see WUW much on the boards I would make their point. If last year was a fluke then 21-7 this year I just want you to defend that if overall you feel they are a better team? |
state spectator
Dec 29, 2009
10:22 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I saw the WUW/Firm game. WUW is just one of those teams that the firm does not play well against. You can say the same thing about WUW vs Dmob. Firm beat Dmob in nationals, WUW beats the firm but has lost 4 games to Dmob in 09. |
Top 10
Dec 30, 2009
8:41 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
What I`m saying is similar to what state spectator said. Styles make fights and bad days can happen. I didn`t see either game between Firm and WUW, but I`ve played both teams. I think Firm is better. I`m in Richmond too and our league is clearly the best in the state, but I`m trying to be objective. With that being said, I see your point and so far WUW has been the better team on the field. I just don`t see how. |
OK
Dec 30, 2009
10:39 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
The argument is between Firm and WUW and WUW is 2-0 with their last win being 21-7. WUW has won a Richmond league title which includes the back to back state and national champ Gunz and have finished top 4 in the states 2 years running. Has Firm been around longer yes but to say they are by far better after 2 defeats in back to back years I cant see how you can try to justify it. As far as the D Mob Wuw argument goes D mob beat the Gunz twice this year and the Gunz are the state and national champs so what does that prove???? WUW has some young athletes so I can`t say that Firm is better at the positions stated before. By the way when I spoke to some of the D Mob players they told me they should have beaten Firm by a couple of scores. They told me they were inside the 5 3 times and didn`t score so WUW beats Firm the last 2 games and have lost the last 4 to D mob so Im thinking maybe Firm beating the Mob was a fluke. Riddle me that Batman. Richmond league we the best!!! |
Van Peezy
Dec 31, 2009
2:04 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Firm beating D Mob was not a fluke. It`s not like that was the 1st time Firm beat D-Mob...Firm is tough. D-Mob is tough. WUW is tough too.
But it`s easy to see how someone would rank Firm above WUW even though WUW has put Firm out of big tourneys twice in a row.
Firm has beaten the best teams in the state before (Gunz and D-Mob). WUW has never beaten either.
Other than that reasoning, there is NO other reason to rank Firm above WUW because WUW beat Firm...on the field...in big games...in their last 2 meetings (and only 2 meeting I believe).
If you want to rank teams, try this method:
Look at teams vs Gunz, D-Mob, Firm, Canes, Triple Crown, Kerns and WUW. These are the final 4 teams from the past 2 seasons (2008-2009). Take the records against these teams from Fall 2008-current and stack them up.
In my opinion, head to head games is secondary to games vs top teams. And these 7 have been the top teams.
Gunz beat all these and have lost 3 games. All to D-Mob. But no one else has beaten them.
D-Mob has lost a good 6 games...5 to Gunz and one to Firm.
Firm lost 2 games to WUW and lost to Gunz (not sure of records vs Canes).
WUW lost to D-Mob 4 times and Gunz.
Kerns lost to Gunz twice (not sure of record vs TC).
Triple Crown lost to Gunz and WUW (not sure of record vs Kerns).
Canes lost to Gunz and folded up the tent last fall (not sure of record vs Firm).
I would go:
Gunz
D-Mob
Kerns
WUW
Firm
********
The rest is up for grabs.
Now back to our regularly scheduled program...already in progress.
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Peezy
Dec 31, 2009
3:20 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Ok I`ll go with that but all I am saying is to rank a team in States over a team that has beaten them the last two years is BS. Also I think you should only go by tourney records some teams don`t bring out their real team until tourney time when things really matter. |
Give me your take Peezy
Dec 31, 2009
3:27 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
On B teams like Poorboys and Maroon and Gold. Are these guys top 10 teams in the state? |
Van Peezy
Dec 31, 2009
5:04 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Teams that choose to play in the B tournament are, alot of times, as good as many teams in the A tourney. But if winning a lower level is the goal, then they can`t considered a top 10 team.
To be the best, you have to at least be willing to play the best. If teams choose to play at a lower level, that`s their deal. But no team can expect to be considered with the top teams in the state without the willingness to put that respect on the line every time.
Like someone said before, last year University of Richmond won the title. They deserve respect and credit for that...but never will they be ranked up there with Florida, Texas or even Boise State.
|
So I think I`ve got it
Dec 31, 2009
5:27 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
These team are as good as the top teams, but can`t be ranked with them because they choose to play with lower level teams in the biggest tourney. I can respect that, but I still think that M&G and PB are top 10 teams and WUW is not as good as Firm. That`s my opinion and I`m stickin` to it. |
Fact
Dec 31, 2009
6:07 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
In flag you can`t go by we beat the team that beat them so that means we are better. Maybe WUW is not better than Firm but they have played twice and have gotten beat twice. Your stating opinions while I`m stating what happened. If Firm is so much better explain to me how they got beat worse in the rematch? Men lie women lie #s don`t. I think Firm is a great team but I just made a comment about a state poll that had Firm ranked above a team that beat them by 2 tds in a revenge game. Please explain to me how that makes since. In that case the poll should have D mob ranked #1 since they beat the Gunz 2 times out of 3 this year. |
Top 10
Jan 01, 2010
09:21 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Let`s put it to the people. I`m starting two polls. Is Firm a better team than WUW? and Are PB and M&G top 10 teams in the state? |
dot21 m&g
Jan 01, 2010
09:24 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Understand everything you said real talk and can respect it, I`m just very hard headed lol. And we all know there`s no overall ranks so this is just for fun. But if we keep the same comparison, I don`t think you can say playing A states is ur non conf schedule, I would say it`s much higher and use the bowls. Now we play in the bark bowl every yr in nova and this past yr there, we made the semis. A notable win I guess would be vs r&b from our league since they made top 8 of B last yr and had to play A this yr. But we always find a way to beat them but the games are tight and they are a very solid team. In semis we lost 17-14 to TC who lost in chip to firm. And my other argument would be the ranks can`t be based solely on respect for playing A. But it`s hard to fault a team for going 1 and done in A when you draw gunz or dmob, but at the same time, I also think there`s only the final 4 teams from A wouldve won B, and perhaps firm. But other than those, same may have made it to Sunday but only those top 5 A wouldve won it and I would only offer a guarantee for the top 2 because based on the experience I had playing A, I would say the final 4 of B is right there with the teams just below gunz and dmob status. Happy new year, my f`n lamp exploded last night on my 52" Sony during VT game and I can`t find anyone open today to fix it!!!!! WTF?! |
dot21 m&g
Jan 01, 2010
09:54 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
as you can see, the dates are all F`d up, so my response is up the thread a little bit, prolly where this one will end up. |
Joe(Playmaker)
Jan 01, 2010
11:14 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
O.K. there was no For the love of Ray. J monday so let me step out the board and talk about this ranking thing real quick.
Hmm bottom line Rank all you want Gunz won nationals and states so for a whole year they are the champs. All this other sh*t is half way silly whouwit better then firm, pb and m-n-g, should be in top 10, who plays b, the sec, acc lol yall are crazy.
However when it comes to the states I feel it is like march madness its really all about your brackets. Yea if you are top team you should be able to fight your way thur your bracket no matter what. But there are some teams that do not match up well aganist other teams. Firm offensive does not match up well aganist whouwit defense, however whouwit defense doesnt match up well aganist westwood offensive, now westwood offensive I belive would have hell of trouble aganist IDA-BARBOUR defensive, but I think IDA-BARBOUR defensive would have a hard time aganist Ruckus offesnive, now Ruckus offensive might have a hard time aganist dmob defensive, i mean so on and so on lol
So you can go on and on about the rankings, I just feel its point-less unless you are the gunz and are #1 as far as the titles are concern. M-n-g and poorboyz in the A just depends on their brackets who they get. How far they can go. I do disagree with one thing I saw about only the top 4 of `A` would make it to sunday. Me personaly I feel Gunz, Dmob, Sharks, Ruckus, IDA-BARBOUR, Firm, whouwit, Jre, Amfam, Westwood, Triple Crown, So Focused I feel would all make it to sunday. And I would go as far as say any of them could win it over the current `B` teams.
Now enough about this ranking sh*t 1 thing for sure, two things for certain gunz are champs for another year, and all new for love the of ray j 2 monday 9:00 however I watch it at 11:00 lol |
Real Talk
Jan 01, 2010
12:46 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
dot21, you make a lot of sense. I am just trying take out the personal feelings of I seen this team play and I believe I can or this team can beat them. If you ask all the teams that play they all believe they can beat the next team. I`m sure if you ask the Dawgs/Hurricanes, Blind side, P-Town, or a few other teams that went out early in the A Tourney they believe they can beat M&G and PB`s. Whether they can or not remains to be seen, but you can`t claim you can beat them either. There is only one way to settle the rankings.If the majority of the Top teams (Gunz, D-mob,Sharks,Firm, WUW, and others)are in A put your team in the same Tourney and you will earn your Rankings without a doubt. |
dot21 m&g
Jan 01, 2010
6:52 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Joe, maybe I worded it wrong so that it can be interpreted more than 1 way but what I was trying to say is that IMO, gunz dmob wuw kerns and prolly firm wouldve won B too and a few others wouldve also made it to Sunday. So really we are agreeing on that cuz u named a few others that would make it. You also said that the few you added there would prolly top the current B teams and I got no problem with that, of course I would disagree but that`s nothing against u or those teams. And believe it or not, we learned a lot from our game with u guys last yr, just talking to a few of u who gave us advice and to keep our heads high so we respect that from you all.
And to real talk, totally understand ur argument. I could go on forever and I`m sure u could too. Bottom line, we`re back to A next yr TO STAY! |
Top 10
Jan 31, 2010
7:22 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
We`ll just agree to disagree, but Im telling you Firm is better. |
@Top 10
Jan 31, 2010
8:10 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Lol... So in the final state poll for 09 you still have?
Gunz
D Mob
Kerns
Firm
WUW
We can agree to disagree Firm is a good team but WUW has proven to me that they are a top team as well. They might not have the history yet but they have helped Richmond become a power league and they show up in in tough tournaments. Send Firm to the Richmond league and we will really find out what they are made of. Richmond league is like the SEC of college football. I know we can agree on that! |
dot21 m&g
Jan 31, 2010
8:28 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I know some may not care since we played "b" but for those that don`t mind my input, here ya go. First off, the few considering us for this "unofficial ranking", we say thanks for being mentioned with the other teams. We knew we would catch some flack for playing b but it was a team choice and we have no regrets, had a blast and all 3 games Sunday couldve went either way but this post isn`t to justify that. With that being said, it seems as though there`s some that think us, poorboys, and even RC can compete and win some in A which us and PB have done before. But here`s my argument on our behalf. I understand the UR comparison but I would go a different direction and base it on ur league and tourneys. And I`m not talking so much about records as I am about ur comp. Gunz, dmob, power, amfam, wuw, etc. Richmond is like the SEC, the best. Then ur looking at va beach with firm, dawgs/canes, ptown, idk, maybe the big 10 depending on which season lol. And there`s nova with TC, rhinos, lazy, magnums, kerns, and several others, maybe they`re the big 12. Then there`s our league, were more like the acc or big east. So there`s a difference and in our case, a huge difference from our league play to A ball. My point would be instead of comparing it by D1 to D1AA or D2 or D3, I would argue more by who u play. And yes we chose to play B so obviously in a overall, we shouldn`t be top 5 or even 6-8 maybe BUT just like TCU or even VT, us and PB win with what we got and who we play, but got the toilet bowls instead of the bcs. That`s all I got, once again, it`s just for fun and yes pride too, great year, congrats gunz on ur sweep, and happy holidays to all. |
Van Peezy
Jan 31, 2010
8:56 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Did someone say, "I`m telling you. Firm is better..." ?????
If games were played on paper...maybe.
But u have to factor in head-to-head somewhere along the line...and in a close call, u have to go with the head-to-head winner in my opinion.
Good post Dot. Duly noted. |
My Take
Jan 31, 2010
9:30 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I`m not affiliated with WUW or Richmond and I would argue that you definately should rank teams that played in the tournament by head to head results. The rest of the teams you just have to do your best in the rankings. Makes for good arguments though. |
dot21 m&g
Jan 31, 2010
9:38 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Haha thanks steezy, go hokies, hell of a play to end the half (almost), Tennessee safetys lol wow! |
dot21
Jan 31, 2010
9:40 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Meant peezy, this iPhone has a mind of it`s own sometimes. |
Real Talk
Jan 31, 2010
11:25 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
To dot21 m&g: I agree with most of what you said in comparing the different leagues, BUT the mid major teams in college do play a non-conference schedule like Boise State beating Oregon (Remeber the punch after the game). Also, they have been trying to get non-conference games against a lot of the big teams but the Big schools are turning them down, so i would give them credit and respect for wanting to step up.I truly believe that M&G and PB`s are good teams and have and can compete in the A and will do well, but i can`t disrespect the other teams that step up and play in what some believe is the tougher division A. Everyone wants respect and trust me I respect both M&G and PB`s, but it was your choice to play B you cant play down in comp. and want to be ranked high. This is just my personal belief not meant to be disrespectful to any team. |
groobretearma
Aug 21, 2010
5:18 PM | subject: Sports Free Picks
Russell Branyan supplied the power, belting two lodgings runs, and Felix Hernandez resumed his dominance of the Yankees, as Seattle blanked Little-known York, 6-0, in the opener of a three-game series.
Branyan thwack a three-run really substandard Advanced York starting pitcher A.J. Burnett (9-11) in the earliest inning and added a on a understood`s own smash in the sixth, masses of preservation an favouritism to Hernandez (9-10), who came into Friday`s wrangle having dentate three consecutive complete-game wins against the Yankees.
Although he didn`t pass the record, Hernandez managed to limit Remodelled York to four hits from eight stable innings, finishing with three walks and 11 strikeouts. The right-hander has now held the Yankees to three runs in his bod four outings versus the club.
Burnett allowed six runs on a season-high 12 hits in seven contemplating frames.
Innocent York remained a sport beforehand of Tampa Bay in the American Cosh allied with East. The Rays out in Oakland later Friday.
Alex Rodriguez returned to the Yankees` lineup, but was pulled against a pinch- hitter after down a predestined at-bat well-earned to a lingering injury. Rodriguez hadn`t played in the ornament three games because of a suppositional lively calf. He started as the designated hitter, and grounded in atrocity spot to third actuate to preside over reserved the impaired inning in the controlled of exiting with tightness in the calf. Austin Kearns batted as a replacement exploration of Rodriguez in the fourth and struck out.
Rodriguez`s departure occurred with Restored York trailing arrange off to five runs.
The Mariners jumped to to a 3-0 captain in the material inning on Branyan`s whack to right-center field. Ichiro Suzuki led stereotyped the game with a one and Chone Figgins followed with a skulk, surroundings the acting in reparation in return Branyan`s power display.
"As a air force to every encourage, to rig that unfledged out is worthy," Branyan said.
Seattle picked up another superintend in the third. Franklin Gutierrez stroked a two- missing separate, boa dogsbody market and came house on a Casey Kotchman base hit.
Back-to-back singles during Matt Tuiasosopo and Josh Wilson adjectival phrase across runners on the corners to upon the fourth representing Seattle. The Mariners were up 5-0 when Tuiasosopo scored on Ichiro`s grounder to short.
Hernandez ran into trammel in the fifth, but fanned both Ramiro Pena and Brett Gardner to kindred nutty a bases-loaded jam.
"He did what he was supposititious to do tonight, exclusively with a beginner at the fling," Burnett said of Hernandez. "He got in front and send us away candlelight easily."
Meet Notes
Garrett Olson arranged a bang on ninth in return the Mariners...Branyan has 18 skilled in runs this season...Seattle third baseman Jose Lopez went 0-for-4 to be brusque a 10-game hitting streak...The Mariners are in this day 7-3 on ****** earth interim administrator Daren Brown. |
baseball?
Aug 23, 2010
09:53 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
You actually are posting baseball info? That sucks! |
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2010
Nov 10, 2010
05:34 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Can`t wait for States! Because people Will b shock this year. |
2010
Nov 10, 2010
09:59 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
1 gunz
2 dmob
3 Triple Crown
4 Sharks/Kerns
5 firm
6 ipower
7 Magnums
8 amfam
9 M&G
10 poorboys |
Check yourself Superfeet
Nov 10, 2010
10:00 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
R&B was ONE AND DONE in the BARK BOWL!!! |
Sharks/Kerns
Nov 10, 2010
2:09 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Have called it quits. |
757 Coming
Nov 11, 2010
08:05 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
We coming Baby! |
fairfex
Nov 11, 2010
09:39 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Keep sleeping on us |
drug testing
Nov 11, 2010
5:05 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Some people just need to stay off the board forreal. |
word is
Nov 17, 2010
9:54 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Some teams in hburg will have a lot of sharks guys. Dunno how true that is. But they looked good this year on their league three way tie for first with some team called triple threat, dynasty and m&g. Dot21 any feedback. Or are these other teams suspect? |
dot21 m&g
Nov 18, 2010
06:18 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
There was a few in our league in the spring and one in the fall. None for us or triple threat. Think dynasty had 2. But yes, our league was better this year. |
manman
Nov 18, 2010
08:27 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
who in the world is triple threat and dynasty. are they new teams |
triple threat
Nov 18, 2010
4:46 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Is very fast on o and d....will make a deep run in b |
hburg
Nov 18, 2010
5:16 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Dynasty just as fast |
honestly
Nov 19, 2010
12:49 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Triple threat might win b heard it here first |
Played them last year
Nov 19, 2010
1:21 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
The toughest B team we played last year that is not playing A is Bankheadz. If they have the same team from states last year and same team from chesapeake tourney they will finish top 4 in B. |
scout
Nov 19, 2010
2:40 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
hey Hburg, i saw were the top three teams are 9-1. who took first. I know M&G is a good team and if any team can play with them, I see them making noise in B. |
dot21 m&g
Nov 19, 2010
4:30 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
We took first with tie breaker. Dynasty and TT can both make a run in B. Both really good. |
804
Nov 19, 2010
4:53 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
1. Gunz
2. Dmob
3-10. Poor Boys, Power, Am Fam, River City, Westwood, Blueprint, FU, Redzone
we taking it this year so why even come? |
757
Nov 22, 2010
3:09 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Please dont sleep on The Classics who also r beast ..They lost to the Poor Boys last year |
No class
Nov 22, 2010
3:41 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Classics have no class and cant even handle there own league. |
real Talk
Nov 22, 2010
3:49 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Whaaaaaaaaaatttttt please dont sleep on them ...they can beat top teams ...all said they may have the best Wr`s in the STAte |
lol
Nov 22, 2010
3:59 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
With those top notch wr`s are they playing A or B? If they playing B then their wr`s are average at best. |
757
Nov 22, 2010
4:08 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
This is their 3rd year together ..they been to 2 league championship n they lost last week to the Firm 21-26 n the 2nd round ...before they got together that team was barely winning 4 games ........They`re a young team ... |
hrffl
Nov 22, 2010
4:08 PM | subject: no subject
Thats 1 team I wouldnt sleep on ..forrreeeal |
804
Nov 22, 2010
4:36 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
yea they nice |
Ok..
Nov 22, 2010
6:05 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
As i look at the vbffl site seems to me that the classics been around for a while. But who cares. Like (lol) said are they playing A or B. None of those bum teams from 757 stand a chance. Don`t try to come on this board and pump up a no name team. hrffl is a joke. |
Norfolk
Nov 22, 2010
7:50 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
They are a young team and doing pretty good, however that Firm game was over by half time and Firm coasted the rest of the way. I agree a legit B team that can make a little noise. 2 wins at states! |
to Norfolk
Nov 23, 2010
1:13 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
yes they were down 26-0 bt I;ve seen them cum back from 35-7 deficits ,,,n they have been in the league for awhile but they just bought that team together with alot of new weapons which they been together for only 3 years 2 championship games and a 2nd round lost to the firm ,,,,Im trynna tell yu dont sleep |
??????
Nov 23, 2010
3:05 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
I took a look at the vbffl website and it seems like the classics been around since 2005. They better show up after all this talk. I don`t think they will make it pass the 2nd round.. |
r u fucking dum
Nov 23, 2010
7:03 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
He cleary said the team jus brought mad experience to the table .....there 3rd together with the new members they`ve been 2 2 league championships n lost to the firm n the 2md round this year ....give them dudes sum cred ..wat a big turn around |
??????
Nov 23, 2010
7:27 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
Sounds like someone has taken offense to my previous post. Why? 757 teams typically don`t do well when they come to states. That`s a fact! |
540
Nov 26, 2010
06:44 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
m&g wins A dynasty wins B |
dot21 m&g
Nov 26, 2010
08:51 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
LOL
our first opponent is the draw. second is the team. third could be a foggy afton mountain on 64 coming back. but we`ll be there and play our ass off! |
loone 88
Nov 27, 2010
11:53 AM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
We b in the top 10 rocktown |
RBI WINS
Nov 27, 2010
1:33 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
WE WILL WIN THE B, ACC QB SEWELL FINALLY STEPS UP AND RUNS A FLAWLESS OFFENSE AND WE WIN THE WHOLE THINGS HANDS DOWN... REG, GIVE HIM THE ROCK OR HE`S USELESS AMONG YOUR TEAM. |
manman
Nov 27, 2010
2:18 PM | subject: re: FINAL Overall Top 10
who cares about acc QB. Dont worry, I`ll wait |